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As promised, here is an interview with @ryanleesipes from #Thunderbird, on the whole #Mozilla and #Firefox terms of use situation.

We talk about why this had to happen, how Thunderbird will handle their own Terms of Use, what's happening at Mozilla, and what's changing.

youtube.com/watch?v=ctg5QzSt5tg

@thelinuxEXP Great video! I just feel the whole thing has been very poorly communicated. What @ryanleesipes is doing here Mozilla should have been doing from the very beginning. We're a fairly big Firefox redistributor and there has been no communication towards us. And it does make people nervous here.

BTW is there any particular reason why the video is only 720p on PeerTube and 1080p on YouTube?

@sesivany @thelinuxEXP @ryanleesipes It has also been very poorly communicated by the wider community by making the usual not so useful noise in aiding to understand what's actually happening.

@auser @thelinuxEXP @ryanleesipes IMHO it is only amplification of the original poor communication. I don't mean to critise, it's just really hard to get it right sometimes. Speaking from experience. We at Red Hat have had our share of poor public communication. 🙈

@sesivany @auser @ryanleesipes I think we can’t dismiss the entire thing as just miscommunication, and outrage amplifying that. There ARE valid causes for concern behind the stuff that’s has been explained :)

Jiří Eischmann

@thelinuxEXP There are definitely legitimate concerns. Imagine you have customers who type top secret information into Firefox and you learn without prior notice that ToS now requires them to license all that stuff to Mozilla and it's undercommunicated with "trust us, we are doing it in good faith".
@ryanleesipes

@sesivany @thelinuxEXP @ryanleesipes Just because you have right to copy data does not mean you have right to sublicense data. So Mozilla is just violating copyrights (and claims to make other people violate copyright). That ToS is just not okay, also notice how it can change at any time. I can't believe this is even legal in most of the world.